Limited Knowing and Limited Election

A quote from the book  Silas Marner:
“Limited knowledge, that is, does not prevent people from interpreting what they see — only from interpreting it accurately.”

From the Gospel of John:
“Jesus answered and said to them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.”

Some might think that if man could just will better or have a better will, he could choose God. But here Jesus tells us those who have heard and learned go to Him. We might equate hearing from and learning from the Father as being the same as the Father drawing one to Jesus. Certainly,and at least, the division is not a matter of will. But this knowing is more than retaining facts and data, but spiritual knowledge revealed by God to man.

Let’s look at Matthew 11:

At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight. All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

Here again we have a division in people, not due to their wills but due to a difference in knowing. Again this knowing is more than retaining facts and data, but spiritual knowledge revealed by God to man.

Matthew 13:

And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted. For whoever has, to him more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him. Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

Again the difference between “you’ and “them” is not a matter of will but of knowing. Note this knowing is not to the credit of the ones knowing but to them it has been granted to know.  The others see, but not really. The hear but not clearly. They lack understanding. They are missing out on a necessary knowing.

Jesus continued in Matthew 13:

In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says,

‘You will keep on hearing, but will not understand;
You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive;
15 For the heart of this people has become dull,
With their ears they scarcely hear,
And they have closed their eyes,
Otherwise they would see with their eyes,
Hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart and return,
And I would heal them.

Their sin has rendered them unable to grasp the truth of Jesus. They hear and see but they do not understand or perceive.  Read Isaiah 5 and 6 or  consider this from Romans 1:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Put that next to Ephesians 4:

So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind, being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart; and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.

Romans tell us the became futile in their speculations, while Ephesians tells us the unsaved man walks in the futility of their mind, darkened in their understanding and excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them. They can not claim ignorance as a defense though when they stand before God in Judgment Day, because their futile thinking and darkened understanding is due to their own sin and their turning away from God. All of us were once in he dark but to some Gos opened the eyes of our heart.

The Bible makes a contrast between those who remain in the dark and excluded from the life of God and those God reveals and enlightens Himself to for salvation. The difference is not in the will of man but in God’s choice of whom to save through the revealing of Himself.

To some  God teaches and draws, or to some God reveals the Son to and grants knowing. To these Jesus says:

But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

To revisit our opening quote;

A quote from the book  Silas Marner:
“Limited knowledge, that is, does not prevent people from interpreting what they see — only from interpreting it accurately.”

Now consider this from 1st Corinthians:

For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Those who are perishing have a limited knowledge and they interpret the cross as foolishness. But to those God has revealed Himself to and granted them knowing, they see the cross as the power of God to salvation.

Salvation is not about the will of man, and neither is the lack of salvation.

Salvation is all about God, His will, and His choosing, and His work.

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2 Responses to Limited Knowing and Limited Election

  1. Once you are biblically born again your eternal salvation is sealed! You are bound for Heaven and you’re sure to get there! See John 10:27-29

    But the thing most Christians don’t understand is that:

    Salvation Comes in Threes.

    There are three levels to salvation, each affecting a different part of your being at a different time and in a different way.

    The Three Levels of Salvation are:

    (1) The Regeneration of the Spirit –

    The Bible says, “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you…” Eze 36:26

    (2) The Restoration of the Soul (mind) –

    The Bible says, “…Receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.” James 1:21

    (3) The Transfiguration of the Body –

    The Bible says, “…Waiting for the time when we will take our place as sons, that is, the salvation of our bodies.” Rom 8:23 (Bible in Basic English)

    In strictly biblical terms we call them:

    (1) Justification
    (2) Sanctification
    (3) Glorification

    Read more: http://www.3LevelsOfSalvation.com

  2. parsonsmike says:

    Everest,
    I agree that there is three parts of a person, spirit, mind, and body that are saved or restored to godliness.
    But i think you err when you equate the word or idea of soul with the word or idea of mind. Not that there isn’t some crossover between these two ideas, but that the general Biblical use of the word ‘soul’ means much more than mind and usually includes the whole person: mind, body and spirit.

    I also disagree with the idea that our minds are ever completely renewed while we are in in the world. Thus i disagree with the idea that we are ever wholly sanctified as to be free from ever sinning again while we are still in this world. Although there may be a point close to death where a suffering soul might be very close to that sanctification.

    One reason for my objection is that the mind is partly of the flesh, and partly of the spirit. Since our bodies are not to be transformed until the rapture, our minds also await that Day of the Lord for its finishing. Again though, if one dies before the rapture, as most do, the soul is separated from the body, so in that speculative area i remain silent.

    Another reason I disagree in complete mind sanctification while in the body and thus in this world is that we still sin. And those who say they do not are liars as our brother and true Apostle John tells us: If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

    So until that Great and Glorious Day when the Lord returns and gathers His saints let us heed our brother and true Apostle Paul:

    Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.

    God bless and may the peace of the Lord Jesus fill your heart.
    mike

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